Pro Plus Politics?!

Let's say no to Pro Plus politics, the late night, disruptive and tactical voting that goes on in parliament.

Important decisions should be made by MPs in normal working hours when (a) the MPs are alert and (b) all MP's have a chance of getting to the vote easily without having to seriously compromise their family and social lives.

This will make for better decision making (awake) by better MPs (normal people with social and family lives).

Ian Smith Apr 5, 2015

Dear All,

I am posting a quick comment here and in my other ideas.

Firstly, I want to say how much I have enjoyed seeing all of your contributions on this and other ideas and how impressed I am with the range of expertise and erudition which has filled these debates.

Secondly, I wish to put forward a couple of suggestions as to a way forward at this stage.  They are:

A.   I suggest that we all refrain from further voting until the ideas have been refined and represented and have then been debated for a while.  My thinking here is that we will want to see the reshaped ideas and see the comments on those refined ideas before we decide whether they are to be voted up or down,  I do not think that we should refrain from voting on comments but perhaps try not to vote too hastily on them.

B.  Now that the hurly burly of the "Hacking" phase (some of it quite savage) has passed, I hope and wish that we will adopt a more collaborative and less combative approach in our commentary, so that commentary is given a chance to be constructive and really do the job of refining the ideas in question.

C.  I would hope that we can refrain from attacking the very existence of the idea under discussion in this phase or the fact that it has successfully gone through to this phase against the wishes of those who voted it down.  I sincerely hope that the previous critics of an idea, will still respect that it found favour with the crowd and now help to refine the idea in this phase.

Thirdly, I will try my best not to introduce any more typos and mangled phrases! 

Best wishes for the holiday weekend!


Mark Cooke Apr 13, 2015

A sensible idea,  but can't we trust a modern Parliament to set its own reasonable rules of procedure - the Scottish Parliament seemed to manage this.

Too detailed for a constitutional rule.

Fiona Condon Apr 13, 2015

I think I agree with Mark that it doesn't really belong in the constitution even though I do agree with the principle.

Jake Wellman Apr 13, 2015

IanSmith1, do you have a specific proposal to implement your idea (i.e. defining important decisions and working hours)?



-JWellman, moderator

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